Hi John!
Once upon a time . . . and so the story goes back too many years. My father was a Signal Corps officer and I was absolutely fascinated with the world of communication. He taught his daughter well, this man that gave so much before he was KIA his third tour of duty in Korea. I wonder what else I might have learned. Before he left for Korea he sent me the parts to make a simple radio -- not a HEATH KIT just the parts and directions. His mistake was the chemistry set that I added to and made gun powder . . . kinda didn't realize what would happen when I lit that match and touched it to the trail I'd made. OoPs! I started a fire and my grandmother's carriage house vanished.
You and I have met in another question and I suggested that you needed to ask Yedda if there were a way to 'vote' and keep track of the answers -- much like AOL's welcome screen that allows one to vote. I don't think that either of us could have forseen what would happen to our country . . . who is this man that has a background filled with too many questions?
Who is Obama? I posted this in another question because it actually makes sense! John, You might find this interesting:
Fact 1. Constitution Article II, Section II sets forth the qualifications for presidential candidates: ""No person except a NATURAL BORN Citizen", or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and have been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
Fact 2. Just because you are a US Citizen or have a US birth certificate, does NOT mean that your are a "NATURAL BORN" Citizen of the USA!!!
Fact 3. A Birth Certificate or documentation of a birth in a hospital should include at least: a number referring to the document, the name of the hospital, the mothers and fathers birthplace and ages, and with the attending doctor's signature.
Fact 4. The state of Hawaii issues a Certification of Live Birth (COLB) for those born: inside the State of Hawaii, outside of the State of Hawaii, and even outside the country if the parents, or one of the parents, are natives of, or residents in, the State of Hawaii. They also allow Late Registration. Every illegal alien born in Hawaii gets a Hawaiian COLB!!! The questionable*(see notes below) Certification of Live Birth (with a rev. 11/01 printed by a computer on a 2001 form for someone supposedly born in 1961) submitted on the web page of Barack Obama indicates that Barack Hussein Obama II was born on Aug. 4, 1961 to the mother Stanley Ann Dunham and father Barack Hussein Obama. http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert
Fact 5. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr, was not a US citizen, he was a bureaucrat Muslim in the communist government of Kenya. Under the British Nationality Act of 1948 he was a citizen of the United Kingdom and its Colonies. Under this Act, IF he was married to Stanley Ann Dunham and IF he acknowledged Barack Hussein Obama, Jr, as his son, or IF they were not married and he still acknowledged the boy, and IF he filed the correct paperwork with the British Colonial Authorities in Kenya, Barack Hussein Obama II, was born as a British Colonial Citizen and possesses a Birth Certificate which should still exist on file in Kenya and, presumably, London, England. Under Chapter VI. Section 87, of The Constitution of Kenya, Barack Hussein Obama Sr. became a Kenyan citizen on December 12th 1963. If Barack Hussein Obama, Sr, filed the correct papers with the British Colonial Authorities and with the Kenyan Government Barack Hussein Obama II also became a Kenyan citizen on December 12th 1963 under Section 97. of the Kenyan Constitution and still remains a Kenyan Citizen.
Fact 6. Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo a Muslim Indonesian citizen.
Fact 7. Under Indonesian Law you can not adopt a child over the age of five, even abroad, if you are an Indonesian Citizen. In “Dreams from my Father”, Obama says he lived with his step-father in Indonesia for five years and that by the time he and his mother arrived in Indonesia she and Lolo had been married for over a year before Lolo returned to Indonesia. Five years + one year = 6 years and when Barack Hussein Obama II returned to Hawaii prior to September of 1971 because he was enrolled in his Prep School in Hawaii to start the Fifth Grade he was 10 years old so he was probably shy of 4 years old when Dunham married Soetoro and arrived in Indonesia about the time of his fifth Birthday (1966).
Fact 8. Indonesian Law says: “Foreign persons under age of five who are adopted by Indonesian Citizens obtain Indonesian Citizenship following legalization of adoption process by District Court of general jurisdiction with jurisdiction over the adoptive parents [Id at Art. 2 (1)]“ “It is stipulated that an adopted child has the same status as a natural child, and that his or her relationship to the birth parents is severed by adoption”.
Fact 9. The only Legal Relationship he would have to his mother is that she was married to his Legal Father Lolo Soetoro, under Indonesian Law. He would be an Indonesian Citizen with an Indonesian Passport and an entry in Lolo’s KK documents.
Fact 10. Indonesian Law prior to August 1966 would be Indonesian Law 62/1958 and other prior Indonesian Laws. Indonesian Law does not accept Dual Nationality/Citizenship, so Barack Hussein Obama II would no longer be a US Citizen according to Indonesian Law, in fact he would be considered never to have been one at all.
Fact 11. Lolo Soetoro would be his guardian, next of Kin and father. His Religion would be Legally Listed and Registered as Islam because children have the Religion of their Father under Indonesian Law and can have no other. His Surname would become Soetoro, in full Soetoro Mangunharjo with Barry as his given name at the choosing by his father Lolo.
Fact 12. Barry Soetoro was enrolled on January 1st 1968, given Serial No 203 and placed in Class 1 B. His Religion is given as Islam, his Nationality Indonesian, his Father’s Name as L Soetoro Ma., his Father’s Occupation as Official, Director General’s Office TNI [Topography Division Indonesian Army] and his Name as Barry Soetoro.
Fact 13. Only citizen Indonesian children were enrolled in Indonesian Schools in 1968, SD Asisi was a Roman Catholic School within the Indonesian State System, it was not an International School. Therefore, if he attended this school and subsequently SDN Menteng 1, State Elementary School, and every source agrees that this is the case, he would have to have been enrolled as an Indonesian Citizen.
Fact 14. All records show that Lolo Soetoro Ma. is described as his father and that no mention is made of his mother.
Fact 15. Indonesia in the sixties was a Police State! Everybody, even babes, had Identity Documents of some sort, possibly including Passports. Everybody was registered with the Government, one way or another. The head of each family, usually the father, but in rare cases a widowed, or divorced, mother has an Official Document called a Kartu Keluarga (Family Card). This lists every household/family member and gives their details in the same way as their individual KTPs or KITAS visas would.
Fact 16. An adopted, child called a WNI, warga negara Indonesia, has the same KK entry as any other Indonesian child. When a child enrolls in School their details are taken down from their KK Entry, as presented by the father (who is also required, at that time, to produce his KTP to verify the details on the KK). They are then given their Student KTP. KKs, like KTPs, are issued by the Government and cross checked by the National Police and Immigration Service.
Fact 17. Everything on Barry Soetoro record's at SD Asisi matches what would be true if he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro before he arrived in Indonesia. Schools are subject to periodical checks by both the Police and Immigration Officers as well as School Inspectors; this includes the teachers as well as the students.
Fact 18. Under Indonesian Law Barry Soetoro was an Indonesian Citizen and he could not Renounce that Citizenship until he was between the ages of 18 and 21, after 21 possibly he could not renounce it at all.
Fact 19. Dual nationals owe allegiance to both countries and are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if that person later travels there. Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country.
Fact 20. Somehow Stanley Ann Dunham got the necessary letter of permission from her husband so Barry Soetoro could go to Hawaii. An Indonesian Citizen called Barry Soetoro left Jakarta on an Indonesian Passport with both a US Visa and also an Indonesian Exit Visa. But an American Citizen called Barack Obama landed in Hawaii.
Fact 21. The US law states for a "NATURAL BORN" US Citizen for the time Barack Hussein Obama II was born between December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986: If, at the time of your birth, both your parents were U.S. citizens and at least one had a prior residence in the United States, you automatically acquired U.S. citizenship with no conditions for retaining it. If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16. immigration.findlaw.com/.../...id-you-know(1).html
Fact 22. Obama's mother was only 18 years old at his birth, NOT the 16 + 5 = 21 required because his father was not a US citizen. Therefore Barack Hussein Obama II is NOT a "NATURAL BORN" US Citizen as required to become the President of the USA!!!
Fact 23. There must be a paper trail in Hawaii, US State Dept., and other Federal and Foreign Government Records to prove, or disprove the above facts and if there is not then somebody has removed the trail. If that is the case there has been a criminal conspiracy and all these moles involved need to go to prison!!! At the State Dept. Obama's records have been breached 3 times by employees of a company that the CEO is an adviser to Sen. Obama!!!
Fact 24. We had an Indonesian Barry Soetoro with an Indonesian passport leaving Indonesia but upon the arrival in Hawaii we had the same person Barack Hussein Obama II now magically a US citizen.
Fact 25. All of Barry's classmates throughout all of his school years knew him as Barry until he started college whereupon he was Barack Obama when he left the island of Hawaii to the mainland.
Fact 26. It is the responsibility of the presidential candidate to prove that they meet the qualifications of the Constitution, not the voters. So let Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama II supply copies of all the original documents that would prove he is a "NATURAL BORN Citizen of the United States of America" as defined and required by the US Constitution to become the President & Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces and he has no allegiance to another country!!! Questions, Notes, &
Additional Comments and Concerns:
1. Where is the original 1961 Birth Certificate that was issued at the time of birth of Obama II with the signature of the attending doctor? There were 2 hospitals in Honolulu at that time, but by phone I was denied my request to find out if they had Obama's documents. The document in 1961 would have been black & white!!! Obama claimed in the first chapter of his book Dreams From My Father: "I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school." Time wise this would be before 1980, so why is he trying to pawn off on us a COLB that was made after 2001?
2. Dunham by an application for SSN 535-40-8522 stating she was born Nov. 29, 1942, so if Barack was born on Aug. 4, 1961 Dunham was 18 years old.
3. From US immigration, exactly when starting in 1961 did Dunham, Obama Sr., Barack Hussein Obama II, &/or Barry Soetoro depart Hawaii? Were there any other reentries or exits (with full details) before the final entry of Barack Hussein Obama II at age 10 when he started school in Sept. 1971 in Hawaii?
4. Sen. Obama's own Kenyan paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have also claimed that Stanley Ann Dunham gave birth to little Barack in Kenya and subsequently flew to Hawaii to register the birth.
5. Did Obama Sr. document his son with the Kenyan government? If so Obama II is probably still a citizen of Kenya &/or the UK.
6. How did Dunham legally enter an Indonesia citizen named Barry Soetoro into Hawaii with the name of Barack Obama???
7. Where are the legal papers that show Barry Soetoro's name was changed to Barack Hussein Obama II?
8. Did Barry Soetoro formally renounce Indonesian Citizenship between the ages of 18 and 21 and if so where are the documents? If Barry did not renounce then he is still an Indonesian citizen and Indonesian Law would prevail.
9. Senator Obama was an Indonesian Citizen as a boy but probably still is one legally. Perhaps this explains Julia Suryakusuma's view that Obama could run for President of Indonesia as expressed in her article in "The Jakarta Post" on 29th November 2006. Julia Suryakusuma was one of Stanley Ann Dunham's best friends. old.thejakartapost.com/yesterdaydetail.asp
10. Did Barack Hussein Obama II upon the age of 18 comply with all the requirements of the Selective Service Registration until he reached the age of 26: Defense Authorization Act established Title 5, U.S. Code, Section 3328? If so what is his Selective Service number? Have him release all of these records.
11. The State Department should know what kind of passport and name Obama used on his journey to visit his mother in Pakistan, in 1981.
12. See FACT 4. Hawaii issue of CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH (COLB) with a revision for the year 2001 for someone born in 1961 means absolutely nothing because Barack Hussein Obama II could have been born outside of the USA and still received this document since his mother was a resident of the state.
13. * http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert - This document looks as flaky as: the forged Bush documents that DAN RAthER touted on ABC that got him fired; and John Kerry's DD214 which was not issued until peanuts Carter gave amnesty to the traitors & draft dodgers of his time. You do not need to be a computer expert to question this Certification of Live Birth:
A. The certification number is blocked out (probably by Photoshop), at the bottom of the certificate it says "any alterations invalidates this certificate".
B. The birth supposed to have happened in 1961 but the COLB was printed by a laser printer (non-existent in 1961) on a form revised in 2001.
C. There is no space between ,1 on August 8,1961 as there is between 4, 1 on the August 4, 1961.
D. In 1961 the Birth Certificates were black & white!!!
E. In 1961 Dunham, the mother's race would have been listed as WHITE, not Caucasian.
F. In 1961 Obama, the father's race would have been listed as BLACK or NEGRO, not African.
G. All that Sen. Obama needs to do to clarify the COLB & other facts, questions, notes, and comments made above is to authorize the release of all his original records where ever they maybe found. (Something that John Kerry has never authorized with all of his military records, FBI records, or CIA records!!!)
14. Barack Obama lied to the Illinois Supreme Court when asked to provide former names, according to his attorney registration it just lists Barack Hussein Obama as full name, but his birth certificate on his web page has Barack Hussein Obama II, and his years in Indonesia he was legally Barry Soetoro.
15. Senator Barack Hussein Obama II needs to be also investigated for breaking the Logan Act for both his World Tour trip and his trip to Kenya where Obama has involved himself in Kenyan Internal Politics where he has actively campaigned for Prime Minister Odinga’s Party, the ODM, by making speeches in Kenya.
16. Concerning Obama's allegiance there is at rawstory.com/.../..._put_hand_over_heart_1022.html a movie of Barack Hussein Obama II not standing at attention & putting his right hand over his heart during the National Anthem, instead he has his hands over his crotch while rocking back & forth. As Obama would say: "YES WE CAN". Does Obama's allegiance belong with: UK; Kenya; Indonesia; or Obama's communist mentor from the age of 10 to 18 was "Frank" from Obama's book "Dreams from My Father" which was the sex deviate negroid Frank Marshall Davis who had sex with a 13 year old girl with his wife and Davis espionage against the USA as a member of the Communist Party of United States in Hawaii & ties in Chicago that the FBI has 601 pages documented. Or Obama's connection to the same kind of people in Chicago are: racist hating Dr. Rev. "God damn America" Wright that made an unauthorized trip to Cuba to consult with Comrade Castro and that taught Black Liberation Theology to the Obama's for more than 20 years so Obama thinks he can claim that he is a Christian; his buddies that provided most of Obama's security during the primaries from The Nation of Islam & Louis Farrakhan; the Weather Underground terrorists & Communist the unrepentant William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn where Obama launched his political career at their home; and/or his political financial buddies convicted felon billionaire George Soros & convicted felon Syrian national Tony Rezko??? This is the Obama's "CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN"!!! Or view next to Obama's photo a Cuban flag with Che Guevara’s portrait in his Texas campaign office: mpinkeyes.wordpress.com/.../ or as he claims he is not or never was a Muslim check on: select.nytimes.com/.../06kristof.html and www.newsmax.com/.../119942.html or his ties to Saudi billionaire Dr. Khalid al-Mansour the financial backer of the Black Panthers and that helped Obama at Harvard: www.newsmax.com/.../127490.html
17. So exactly who is this guy that wants to be our US Commander in Chief of Armed Forces that says: "----we'll make the goal of eliminating all nuclear weapons a central element in our nuclear policy"??? He doesn't want to spend any money on new weaponry technology while we constantly have terrorist threats. The suicidal Mullahs in Iran are on the verge of acquiring nuclear weapons but Obama will give us universal health care, do we also get a Geiger counter and iodine tablets??? When Russia invaded democratically elected government of Georgia, Obama called on Georgia to show restraint. Then Comrade Obama's solution was to call on the U.N. Security Council where Russia has veto power, then goes body surfing!!! Do we want the commander in chief to pass the mantle of U.S. leadership to the corrupt U.N.???
18. We are wondering why Obama is not living or running for some communist government office in China after he praises the superior Communist Chinese's infrastructures: "Their ports, their train systems, their airports are vastly the superior to us now...""Beijing looks like a pretty good option." After making comments like this he gets mad because we question his patriotism to the USA.
19. Right from the mouth of a cocaine user Sen. Obama in his memoir "Dreams from My Father," on his drug use "Pot had helped, and booze, maybe a little blow when you could afford it. Not smack though," He was deterred by the image "of an air bubble, shiny and round like a pearl, rolling quietly through my vein and stopping my heart," he says. "Junkie. Pothead. That's where I'd been headed: the final, fatal role of the young would-be black man." And he even explains how he has gotten away with avoiding discussions of his drug use and the technique he used to deceive his mother when she confronted him: "I had given her a reassuring smile and patted her hand and told her not to worry, I wouldn't do anything stupid. It was usually an effective tactic, another of those tricks I had learned: People were satisfied so long as you were courteous and smiled and made no sudden moves." As long as he does not deviate from his teleprompter speech and does not make in sudden moves or thoughts he does not put his foot in his mouth.
20. Senator Barack Hussein Obama II said on CNBC television about his World Tour on July 25: "It has also allowed me to send a message to the American people that the judgments I have made and the judgments I will make are ones that are going to result in them being safer." Do you feel safer now with Obama's judgments, his associations, his friends that he has made, and that he represents the Democrat's candidate for the President of the USA???
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