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More Questions For Obama Why Doesn't Your COLB Look Like The Other Hawaiian COLB's?

Without question, there is a major misunderstanding (probably intentional) in the media with regards to this very issue of Obama's Citizenship status.

The coming Constitutional crisis!

Some facts (with references) regarding Barak Obama and why the U.S. may see a usurper posing as President:

A) Hawaiian law, at the time of Obama's birth, allowed for FOREIGN born baby's to be registered in Hawaii via a 'Certificate of Live Birth':
"[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State..."

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0008.htm


B) The Hawaiian govt' officials NEVER stated that Obama was born in Hawaii. They only stated that they have seen his birth certificate on file. But a B.C. from where?? (see #1 above).

On October 31, 2008, Dr Chiyome Fukino, Department of Health:
"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf

For the Hawaiian 'Policies and Procedures' she refereed to...see item #1 above which, again, affords foreign born babies to obtain a Hawaiian COLB.
The Hawaiian Governor & the Dpt of Health official merely stated fact based on their own laws. One can obviously see that a Kenyan B.C. from 1961 would be legal and valid per Hawaiian law. This would also allow Obama to obtain a U.S. Passport.

C) Examples of Hawaiian Long Form COLB's:
1963 Hawaiian Long Form COLB:
http://a5.vox.com/6a00c2252293c4604a0100a80270e5000e-pi
1962 Hawaiian Long Form COLB:
http://passportsusa.com/wp-content/gallery/passportusa/edith_front.jpg

Obviously, what the Obama camp has released looks nothing like those two Hawaiian COLB's from that time. Where's his?

D) If it's proven Obama was indeed foreign born (Kenya), He would NOT have received U.S. citizenship based, only, on his mother's citizenship status. Per U.S. law at the time of his birth (December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986).

Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock:
"For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child."

http://travel.state.gov/law/info/info_609.html

Note that the law only pertains to 'Citizenship', and not 'Natural Born' Citizen. There is a difference. Governor Schwarzenegger from Ca. is a citizen, yet he could not be POTUS because he isn't a Natural Born citizen. He's a Naturalized citizen.

Obama's mother didn't give birth to him at 19 (14 + 5). Therefore, Obama could not obtain U.S. citizenship based only by virtue his mother's citizenship.

E) And then there is the dual citizenship issue (which could make the above totally irrelevant). Factcheck themselves state that Obama was indeed a British subject and did in fact hold dual citizenship AT Birth.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html

"In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen ... and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC)"

So even IF he was indeed born in Hawaii (would be easy for him to prove but hasn't so far), Obama could therefore not be a Natural Born citizen because Natural Born citizens can not hold dual citizenship at birth. It has to do with the potential for divided loyalties and the very reason the
writers of the Constitution themselves allowed for their exception (grandfathered in) because all of them were British Subjects at birth.

He might be a "Naturalized" Citizen, but there is nothing (to date) in the public sector to suggest he is a 'Natural Born" Citizen, the Constitution clearly requires for one to become POTUS.

The difference between the COLB (Certificate Of Live Births) from the State of Hawaii during the same time frame, and what was produced by Obama, does not even come close!

Somebody is playing a game on the American public!


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This was brought to the attention of the Supreme court and they did nothing to expose it or deal with it, in fact every lawsuit that has been brought to the court demanding to see Obamas records has been dismissed. Anything Obama is doing now or since he has been in office will be null and void if he is proved to be a usurper. Health care will be a mess to unravel and reverse and the trillions he has given out to various pork and stimulus packages will never be recovered, including the 8 billion he gave as a gift to Acorn. Everything this man is doing is against the rules of the constitution including getting into business with auto companies  Banks etc. It is not the place of Government to be in business  nor to make a profit which Obama boasted of with a bank payback, that is illegal as far as the constitution is concerned. The partnerships with America are against the constitution. Every congressman and Senator has to taken an oath to protect its citizens and to uphold and protect the constitution, they have not done that and they should be expelled from office. Many of them hold membership in the CFR which is a globalist group that also wishes to change the face of America, I should think it would be easier to leave if they don't like it here and maybe they need help doing that.

The "Birthers" are not a bunch of crazies, they are constitutionalists and there is nothing wrong with that. We should all protect the constitution and not let Obama hand this country over to the UN who plan on using their own constitution instead of ours, where we should think of them as members of our family.

Please reconsider your stance on President Obama, he is now getting ready to take his family to Hyannis port on a very very expensive vacation, this in light of the fact that people out there are without jobs , homes and are barely able to support their family, is this who you want in the white house? How many hours as he spent in the oval office, all he does is take the Presidential plane around the world, with his whole family including his Mother in law and nanny, he is arrogant and he apologizes to anyone who will listen about America being arrogant, how does this look to the people he is apologizing to?

We are not crazy or right wing whackos, I am not a Republican or a Democrat, I am an independent and we have to demand to see his records and if he refuses to produce them he needs to be removed for the safety of this country. He has his own agenda and he shouldn't be there. He is very unhappy with the way America is and he wants to change it, not for the better, yet like most leftists/marxists/communists, they are getting their moneys worth out of being in the white house and enjoying all America has to offer including million dollar vacations.

Posted 2009-07-26T09:41:56Z
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Great info. Thanks a lot!

I see on  the "acquisition of US citizenship" site this:

Birth Abroad Out-of-Wedlock to a U.S. Citizen Mother: A child born abroad out-of-wedlock to a U.S. citizen mother may acquire U.S. citizenship under Section 301(g) INA, as made applicable by Section 309(c) INA if the mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of the child's birth, and if the mother had previously been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year.

Since Obummer's father was still married to Kezia, back in Kenya, and since there  is no  record of marriage between Stanley (Anna) and Obummer,  Sr, the statute I copied  seems to be what  is applicable. (but Obummer  will have to admit  he's a bastard,  with his mother bearing him out  of wedlock first).

Anyhow, if I am right (and I  really hate to say this),  Obummer might actually be a citizen.

If anybody sees fault  in my logic, I'd love to hear about it (if it shows Obummer is a fraudulent citizen)

Posted 2009-07-27T04:30:23Z
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Obamas Mother was underage, she couldn't have given him citizenship, she was only 17. This will explain what has to happen to have the birth certificate he needs, so far it hasn't happened.

Lynn Stuter -- Is Obama eligible to the office of president?

Posted 2009-07-27T08:22:44Z
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Stanley(Anna) was 17 when she got pregnant (what is the age of statuatory  rape in Hawaii) but she  was 18 when Obummer was born.

Posted 2009-07-27T14:43:13Z
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Your direction,not your intention,determines your destination

Why does the Supreme Court throw out every suit brought against Obama? I think a deal was  made before Obama became President that certain things that would be harmful to his career would never be made known. I think the whole bunch are crooks and some way or another were paid off or recieved special favors for cover ups. This will eventually be know and then the bull crap will hit the fan.Come time for the suppose to be "public officials" to be elected, is the perfect time to show how you feel about the way they helped Obama pull a scam on the American people.Don't relect them or anyone, anyway associated to them.Obama's grandmother said that she got a call from her daughter telling her that she had just given birth to Obama in Kenya and they turned around from their trip and returned to Hawaii, I believe the grandmother, why would she lie about that.I don't think she realized how important her  statement at the time would be.I think they probably have a expert forgery birth certificate being made as we speak.What does Obama have to lose? Credibility?, that's a laugh.

 
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Your direction,not your intention,determines your destination

Why does the Supreme Court throw out every suit brought against Obama? I think a deal was  made before Obama became President that certain things that would be harmful to his career would never be made known. I think the whole bunch are crooks and some way or another were paid off or recieved special favors for cover ups. This will eventually be know and then the bull crap will hit the fan.Come time for the suppose to be "public officials" to be elected, is the perfect time to show how you feel about the way they helped Obama pull a scam on the American people.Don't relect them or anyone, anyway associated to them.Obama's grandmother said that she got a call from her daughter telling her that she had just given birth to Obama in Kenya and they turned around from their trip and returned to Hawaii, I believe the grandmother, why would she lie about that.I don't think she realized how important her  statement at the time would be.I think they probably have a expert forgery birth certificate being made as we speak.What does Obama have to lose? Credibility?, that's a laugh.

 
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Be Blessed.

Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity (Love), I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vauneth not itself, is not puffed up, Doth not behave itself unseemly, seekth not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in truth; Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. Charity never faileth.

And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is (Love) charity.  


September 16, 2009

US (ChattahBox) - The case opened by US soldier Capt. Connie Rhodes has been thrown out by U.S. District Court Judge Clay Land, and Rhodes and her attorney have been threatened with sanctions if refiled.

 

Judge Land made it clear that he will refuse all future ‘frivolous’ lawsuits in this matter, and has chastised both Rhodes and her attorney Orly Taitz, who is a leader within the much ridiculed ‘birthers movement’.

According to his case summary judgment:

“(Rhodes) has presented no credible evidence and has made no reliable factual allegations to support her unsubstantiated, conclusory allegations and conjecture that President Obama is ineligible to serve as president of the United States.

“Instead, she uses her complaint as a platform for spouting political rhetoric, such as her claims that the president is ‘an illegal usurper, an unlawful pretender, [and] an unqualified imposter.’”

He also pointed out that in the various primaries, the campaign, and the final election there was plenty of time for people to come up with credible evidence against President Obama’s birthplace.

Rhodes has been accused in the past of using her case as a means of escaping her tour duties in Iraq, though this is doubtfully the actual reasons behind her lawsuit. However, the case is now over, and she faces legal consequences if she files within the same district again.

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